He is retired now, nut now he works more than he ever did, without pay. He does more work for those in his congregation than anyone I know. Sometimes he misses it while preaching but that just shows one thing, that he is human so God loves him. I don't know anyone who never misses it while preaching. I really don't like rating people on a scale of 1 - 5, but if I had to I would give him a seven.